able to go to both south and east, that we could have created an environment where we could leave and have them capable of carrying out their continued counterinsurgency missions. the fact is, al qaeda is on the rise throughout the middle east. the fact is that they believe that we are weak. they believe we are withdrawing. i talk to these leaders all over the middle east. and this is part of that scenario. look at what's happened in iraq. over 4,000 young americans, and we now have al qaeda on the comeback. anyway, go ahead, willie. >> history is what it is, senator. i think a lot of us wish we weren't in afghanistan anymore, that we hadn't lost 2,000 lives. >> but there was a way out. it's not as if it was an impossible situation. almost all of us agree there was a way that we could have succ d succeeded. >> fair enough, but we are where we are. so what would you do today? why would another year, five years, ten years change afghanistan? >> i would make a decision as to whether we had a significant number of troops listening to my military leadership to remain there to carry out an
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